At December it begins – the new e-boxer Forester arrives

Countdown for the new e-boxer Forester has began! If all goes as planned, new car arrives to my dealer in December and I can pickup it. So roughly three months of waiting still.

This is a new blog, no existing reader base. I was thinking first travel blog. Then I realized that there is way too much competition. Also as an Subaru enthusiastic, it would be easier to focus to that one particular car. To the hybrid Subaru Forester! In this blog I will introduce nice places, where to visit in Finland. However the journey with the new e-boxer will be absolutely in main focus. Then these places to visit will presented a be side stories. Specially it would be interesting to see how this new car handles the Finnish winter and cold climate. Although recent years have been relatively warm. For example last February there was days when temperature was above zero Celsius. Usually February is the coldest month of the year. However temperature can be as low as minus 20 degrees (-13 F) on the area where I live. Then also loads of the snow is expected to fall down from the sky. E-boxer has been on Japanese market for a year now. I haven’t seen experiences from the real owners that much. Specially those which are written in English are not that popular at the moment. So this is exclusively blog and opportunity to follow how the new e-boxer performs during winter time and how much the cold temperature affects to the fuel efficiency and consumption. WLTP combined is 8,1 liters per 100 km. Before driving the car my estimate is that we are closer to 10 liters during the cold times.

So why I want this car, instead e.g. RAV4 hybrid? Toyota is actually quite close to Subaru in many ways. When I was thinking my shortlist, there was left only Forester and RAV4. Audi Q3 was there as an Joker but then decided to drop it off. Q3 is a SUV but in terms of size and some other features it is different car. Pricing is quite close between these Toyota and Subaru. Cargo and passenger space is quite similar. Both have AWD available. I have not yet tried new Forester. However I have consumed quite many video reviews, blog posts and other news articles of the new Forester. Almost all of those have mentioned these characteristics:

  • All around visibility, absolutely there is no other car that can offer similar
  • Ride quality comparable to the German rivals, interior is very quiet too!
  • Symmetrical AWD still extremely capable

So in my opinion those are main selling points. RAV4 has other areas where it excels but at the end, what are your personal preferences and how to valuate those preferences.  Toyota’s strong areas are excellent powertrain and it is super fuel efficient. Subaru has a slogan “better where it matters”. It works quite well. In my case those above mentioned points are very important ones, which falls to category “better where it matters”. Fuel efficiency is not that bad. It is not class leading but also keep in mind that it is not the only thing which you need take into account when thinking maintenance costs. One major aspect is how much the car value will drop during the ownership.

I hope that you will enjoy this blog, if you…

  • Love Subaru Forester
  • Are interested how the new e-boxer works in practice, e.g. during the cold winter
  • Overlanding. Expect to see some back side roads
  • Love the journeys over destinations. Meaning that the journey is the principal goal of the trip

Stay tuned, the winter experience starts soon!

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  • well i just read and commented on other e-boxer article and then looked at the above. One reason I ordered the Foz is because we want to go wild camping in Scandinavia. So I am also interested in your travel articles! Kees, Netherlands

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  • e-BOXER – First Edition
    โ‚ฌ 51.990,-
    Based on the Premium Edition
    18″ alloy wheels
    Trailer Stability Control
    Driver Monitoring System
    sun roof
    and the colour is Sepia Bronze. I like that new green colour, but I think many other people do as well, and the Foz will be ordered in that green colour, or white, black or blue. There will not be many bronze Fozzies in the Netherlands, and the funny thing about the bronze, for me, is that it really is a nice colour as such, but depending on what light it is in, the colour seems to change. Anyway: just a few more weeks! Next year we will probably be touring Norway. Hopefully Finland too, in the future ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    • Very nice! Silver is a very good choice, I think. I was thinking mostly between dark gray and black. Then decided to go with the black one. Let me know when you’re around. I can feature your car on the blog, if you wish ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • Congratulations for starting this blog! Itโ€™s great idea for European Forester e boxer owners ( so far potentially). Similarly as You and Kees also Iโ€™m waiting for delivery. Ordered L Navi in Sepia Bronze color. So, such was decision of my Family members, but have nothing against, instead of this that it will be quite popular color in Poland (itโ€™s a pity). As time of delivery my Warsaw Subaru Dealer assign 23 of December. So itโ€™s quite soon!
    We had mixed experience with Rav4 we used during 2 years till 2017. Terrible noisy, hungry for fuel and gear box not trustful. So we decided never more Rav4. We also took in to consideration Honda CRV hybrid, but it seems that they complicate to much engine system (3 of them). And price is not adequate.

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    • Thanks for the comment Andrez! Glad to have you here. Did you have a chance to test the Chinese pre-production version? Extremely interesting to hear what you think of your car once you will receive it. Did you choose black or brown interior for it?

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      • Yes, for sure. I use currently hybrid Ford C Max. It is definitely not sports car and need patience in driving. Using this Ford I start to love hybrids.

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      • The Forester is an excellent car. I currently own a Mercedes E350e, a good car for sure, but I can ‘t wait to take the Foz out into the French mountains! Btw, I have the brown leather๐Ÿ˜‰

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  • Yes I agree with Andrzej – hopefully we can give each other useful feedback as per January 2020! Pity that Sepia Bronze is popular in Poland, I was hoping I would be the only one in Europe who chose it ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    • I think I have never seen Sepia Bronze Forester. I think it was available for 4th gen too. I general usually cars in Finland are nowadays either white, grey or black. Personally I tried to imagine which color would fit best with the silver parts (mirrors, bumpers and lower side parts). Tough decisions with new car ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • unfortunately i was too excited and busy getting the Foz back along the mud part to take picture, but maybe you like this one. Rgrds Kees

        Op ma 2 dec. 2019 19:02 schreef Adventure Forester :

        > Andrzej commented: “We got two small white cars in house. So, we need > something more colorful.” >

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      • Hi Tomi,

        one more pic of the car; we parked it in between two meadows to catch a little afternoon sunshine ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Op ma 2 dec. 2019 om 19:02 schreef Adventure Forester :

        > Andrzej commented: “We got two small white cars in house. So, we need > something more colorful.” >

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  • My decision of choosing new Forester was out of experience, only based on data research and talks with Forester owners. Frankly speaking it is still little bit risky. My Forester will be equip with plain dark upholstery material. Will rather prefer American type brown leather. But; โ€œque sera, seraโ€.

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    • It is a great car! Only thing you should be aware of that new Forester is not “pedal to the metal” type of car. However with calm and safe driving style it is more than adequate. Plus plenty of other great features. Outstanding outwards visibility being one of my favorites. Combine that to small turning radius. Quiet and comfortable platform. So yes, very good choice ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • Hi from the UK. I took delivery of an XE Premium UK Spec in Magnetite Grey with Black leather on 27/11/19. I was also considering the Sepia Bronze but decided on this new Grey. Note had chance to really try it out yet, but the battery assist gives it good acceleration from junctions. Looking forward to hearing when you all get your new Foresters.

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    • Hi Graham! So you got your e-boxer delivered already. Nice! Once you get some experiences how the car feels let us know. I am sure others are also interested. Do you already have snow in the UK? Foresters loves snow ๐Ÿ˜€

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  • No snow yet, which is probably a good thing. Given the Forester’s capabilities I would have expected All Season/All Terrain tyres but in UK at least it comes with Summer tyres.Will have to see how that works out, may have to invest in a set of Nokian Winter tyres.

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    • Are you considering Nokian R3 model? My dealer offered me Continental (non studded) and those are coming for me. Some sort of package they are offering. Otherwise I would have chosen R3 too. What brand and model summer tyres was?

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      • Probably the WR SUV 4 don’t think it will be severe enough to need R 3. My Forester came with Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport summer tyres.

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    • I have been researching tyres cos there will als be winter tyres on mine. Perhaps snowflake Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus.

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      • These are the tyres I have been looking at. As said, I think the Scorpions are the best for me.

        Goodyear Efficient Grip 225 / 55 R 18 98 V

        Continental Conti Cross-Contact LX2
        Geolandar A/T GO15 (available in 225/55R18)

        !! PIRELLI SCORPION All Terrain Plus 225/60 R17 99H

        Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen 2 ??? (best in test autobild)
        Goodyear UltraGrip Performance SUV Gen-1
        !!Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure??? Best in US test offroad)
        225/60/17 also fits.

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      • Also consider Toyo Open Country WT. Hat good results on a Land Rover some time ago with a previous version.

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      • Subaru in Poland deliver, as a benefit, set of winter tires for free for all new selling cars. Probably is it some cheaper brand.
        My dealer inform my, that do to some โ€œlogistical and technical problemsโ€ they suppose postpone time of delivery from end of December till mid of January (it is still better than in Germany, where Subaru plan start of selling in March). I is bed news. Good is, that they will keep still old price for them, who preordered car in 2019. From 01.02.2020 Subaru rise prices at app. 10% for all new cars in Europe.

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    • Well on the advice of the Subaru tech guy and his tire supplier I ordered the Yokohama Geolandar AT Go15. Will take delivery Wednesday. Graham, any first thoughts on your car? Pros, cons, getting settled in tips maybe?

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      • Hi Kees, The Geolander is an All Terrain rather than a winter tyre. Are you only going to use it for winter or all year? I found them good for snow but not too good for wet and dry braking in the summer months. Still not decided which winter tyres to go for myself, but also considered if tyre chains would be useful where the snow is deep. Surprisingly the American user manual says they cannot be fitted, but the UK manual (same size tyres) says they can. This is my first Subaru and glad I waited for the E-Boxer as I was originally going to get the previous generation until I learned about the new Global Platform that is slightly bigger, and it is a lot quieter than the older model I tested. As mentioned previously be gentle on the pedal moving off from junctions the extra torque from the battery gets you moving quicker than you may expect.Road comfort and handling are very good, steering light and responsive, and as Tomi mentions in his video the all round view is excellent. I was hoping it would have the front facing camera as well, but sadly no, it does however have lights under the front doors to illuminate the ground when getting out in the dark. Another new feature is a number of lights in a heads-up-display that work in conjunction with the lane keep warning and vehicle in front when using adaptive cruise (something else to get used to if never used before) but again no dramas so far. Unfortunately most of my journeys up to now have been fairly short around the local town, so still not had chance to really test it out but very pleased with my purchase, and look forward to hearing how you like yours

        Tomi , any news on when you get yours yet?.

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      • Good comments Graham. Indeed, the heads-up green lights are a new addition I appreciate. Although I’ve only had the Foz for some 10 days, I’ve racked up 1600 kms already because we have taken it/her ( ๐Ÿ™‚ ) to the south of France, the Perigord, Puy de Dome area. And we have survived our first adventure: taking the Foz down a muddy, rocky, bumpy and very narrow forest track, only to find some 450, 500 metres along the way that a fallen tree blocked our path. So we had to traverse the whole way back in reverse, while going forward had already been a somewhat nervous experience ๐Ÿ˜‰
        With the wife walking behind the car and making left/right gestures, I managed to get the Foz back on the road again. Thank you Subaru for making such a great car, and thanks for X-mode! (oh, and thank me for putting on those geolandars, lol.)

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  • I quote one American among many over the last few months:

    “Just put a set of Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail on my โ€˜18 Forester Black Edition. They are bomber in the snow. Love them. Got the stock 225/55/18. They run quiet and look fantastic. Highly recommend.”

    And apparently they also work in 225/60R18. And even in 235/55r18.
    So maybe we should all have a good look at these too.

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  • Well today I collected the Foz, had Geolandar GO15s put on them at a ridiculous extra charge, but happy happy happy ๐Ÿ˜‰ How do I post a pic here?

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